https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris#/media/File:Paradise_Lost_12.jpg
In its modern usage, hubris denotes overconfident pride combined with arrogance.[2] Hubris is often associated with a lack of humility. Sometimes a person's hubris is also associated with ignorance. The accusation of hubris often implies that suffering or punishment will follow, similar to the occasional pairing of hubris and nemesis in Greek mythology. The proverb "pride goeth (goes) before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall" (from the biblical Book of Proverbs, 16:18) is thought to sum up the modern use of hubris. Hubris is also referred to as "pride that blinds" because it often causes a committer of hubris to act in foolish ways that belie common sense.[11] In other words, the modern definition may be thought of as, "that pride that goes just before the fall."
Examples of hubris are often found in literature, most famously in John Milton's Paradise Lost, in which Lucifer attempts to compel the other angels to worship him, is cast into hell by God and the innocent angels, and proclaims: "Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404092446/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubris
List of Hubris ways to read texts
1. It is Hubris to assume you chose the correct teacher to listen to
Are you open to the possibility that your favorite expert or teaching authority or "God ordained" teacher could be wrong about their interpretation sometimes.
2. It is Hubris to assume you know which books are and are not inspired by God without further investigation then someone told me this is the proper Canon
A) Do the books of the Bible you believe are inspired by God list which books are inspired by God?
B) Do the books you believe contain God's word actually say every letter within those books are God's word or is that what a person you trust told you?
C). Do you know that 2 timothy 3:16 could also be translated writings instead of scripture and does not necessarily mean the set of books your leader calls scripture?
D) Do you know you are disobeying Deuteronomy 18 and other Bible passages if you start with the presupposition that any book of the Bible or any passage is inspired by God and refuse to be open to the possibility that they might say something wrong? For if they always say something right because you presuppose they are the correct prophet then you can not fail Deuteronomy 18 and it would be a useless test, instead replaced with the test of tell me what books are Canonical and I will believe you.
3. The Hubris nature of interpreting the Bible in order to agree with other people.
A) Are you conforming your interpretation to other people's values to avoid embarrassment?
i. Is something taught in the Bible considered unethical by other people in your surrounding society today?
Such that you interpret it differently then what you think it means in order to earn popularity with people who say every letter within the Bible is God's word and also with people who will not have a favorable view of you if you believe the Bible teaches something they view as unethical?
ii You did not write the Bible so why should you be embarrassed by what it says?
You are not the author of any book of the Bible therefore it should not be embarrassing if the author of a book says something that you would interpret as embarrassing to believe because you did not write it but someone else did. You are not God nor the alleged prophet who wrote the book. It is Hubris to change your understanding of what someone else wrote to avoid embarrassment. It is also Hubris to disbelieve something because it is embarrassing. Furthermore if someone is embarrassed because they feel they have to believe something that is embarrassing because they have to believe the Bible because someone told them to, it is Hubris to believe everything you read. Believing something in the Bible is true to fit in is a Hubris motive.
B) Asch conformity experiment and the hubris of giving wrong answers to agree with the crowd
On some occasions, the other "participants" unanimously choose the wrong line. It is clear to you that they are wrong, but they have all given the same answer.
If you were involved in this experiment how do you think you would behave? Would you go along with the majority opinion, or would you "stick to your guns" and trust your own eyes?
https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html
https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404030353/https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html
At this point we can only report some tentative generalizations from talks with the subjects, each of whom was interviewed at the end of the experiment. Among the independent individuals were many who held fast because of staunch confidence in their own judgment. The most significant fact about them was not absence of responsiveness to the majority but a capacity to recover from doubt and to re-establish their equilibrium. Others who acted independently came to believe that the majority was correct in its answers, but they continued their dissent on the simple ground that it was their obligation to call the play as they saw it.
Among the extremely yielding persons we found a group who quickly reached the conclusion: "I am wrong, they are right." Others yielded in order "not to spoil your results." Many of the individuals who went along suspected that the majority were "sheep" following the first responder, or that the majority were victims of an optical illusion; nevertheless, these suspicions failed to free them at the moment of decision. More disquieting were the reactions of subjects who construed their difference from the majority as a sign of some general deficiency in themselves, which at all costs they must hide. On this basis they desperately tried to merge with the majority, not realizing the longer-range consequences to themselves. All the yielding subjects underestimated the frequency with which they conformed.
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404060538/https://www.panarchy.org/asch/social.pressure.1955.html
C. It is Hubris to assume your perception and memory of the Bible text itself is not hallucinatory based on social surroundings.
Not everyone who went along with the crowd did so to avoid embarrassment it is believed that sometimes someone's perception itself is changed by what other people say. Think about how hypnosis done by a third party to someone can change their perception of pain so powerfully it could be used for surgery without drugs, this further supports my points that people's words may influence someone's perception of reality. The Asch experiment might partly be explained by hypnosis in addition to conforming to peer pressure to avoid embarrassment or out of the assumption that the group knows better than you.
Dr Leon Gevertz, of the British Society of Medical and Dental Hypnosis, said that heart operations had been carried out under hypnosis.
Studies found that the practice relaxes the patient and can alter the perception of pain or increase the pain threshold.
However, it works only on those susceptible to the technique.
Mr Lenkei has taught students at the Royal College of Nursing how to induce hypnoanaesthesia and said he would consider undergoing further operations without anaesthetic.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-560534/The-hypnotist-snubbed-anaesthetic-sent-trance-painful-bone-cutting-surgery.html#ixzz5BgF83rgr
Unfortunately I have a lack of citation but remember Steven Hassan saying that the Asch conformity effect also sometimes happens based on hallucinations and not merely people saying a different length than what they saw, the hypnosis example was what I could come up with to explain how someone's words can effect your perception.
Confabulation is distinguished from lying as there is no intent to deceive and the person is unaware the information is false.[4] Although individuals can present blatantly false information, confabulation can also seem to be coherent, internally consistent, and relatively normal.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404061905/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confabulation
Repeatedly saying something false may result in people believing it is true. A good example of this in my personal life was when I remembered the word "antichrist" is in the book of revelation. I sincerely remembered reading this word "antichrist" in Revelation but could not find it. I realized my memory had been confabulated by preachers repeatedly talking about the Antichrist in Sermons on the book of Revelation, this is similar in principle to the hallucination aspect of the Asch conformity experiment.
You need to go back to reading the Bible by yourself in temporary isolation to verify that things you think are in it really are in it is Hubris to assume your memory is correct without any taints in it from Preachers anywhere..
Although it is also Hubris to assume the printing press would not change the text of the Bibles they print over time, there is repeated evidence that they have to a great extent in some English translations so you may have read something in a translation of the Bible that really was there but now can not be found. NIV makes numerous revisions without clear enough marking of the edition in publications for my satisfaction and their actually was and there are serious problems with the King James only belief system described in the link below.
http://www.ibri.org/Tracts/trkjvtct.htm
4. Hubris nature of using the Bible as an excuse to violate your conscience
A ) Would you regret doing something you thought God taught you to do because it violates your own moral code if you found out God did not exist or was not the only god or was different than you previously thought in it's nature or moral standard?
But if we say we love God and don't love each other, we are liars. We cannot see God. So how can we love God, if we don't love the people we can see?
1 John 4:20 Contemporary English version
http://biblehub.com/1_john/4-20.htm
The following quote that is misattributed is also related to this concept
Misattributed[edit]
- Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.
- No printed sources exist for this prior to 2009, and this seems to have been an attribution which arose on the internet, as indicated by web searches and rationales provided at
- "Marcus Aurelius and source checking" at Three Shouts on a Hilltop (14 June 2011)
- This quote may be a paraphrase of "Since it is possible that thou mayest depart from life this very moment, regulate every act and thought accordingly. But to go away from among men, if there are gods, is not a thing to be afraid of, for the gods will not involve thee in evil; but if indeed they do not exist, or if they have no concern about human affairs, what is it to me to live in a universe devoid of gods or devoid of Providence? But Gods there are, undoubtedly, and they regard human affairs; and have put it wholly in our power, that we should not fall into what is truly evil. " from Meditations, Book II, but the quote in question has a quite different meaning.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius#Disputed
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404083442/https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius
B ) Hubris Nature of using the Bible as an excuse to initiate violence instead of only using coercion defensively or with prior consent made free from duress or coercion and fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHe4OQ4bY4o
Non-Aggression Principle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyZEdfQy8WM
Christian Statists Believe In Satan
i. To put this more simply
If you are wrong will you hurt someone or restrict their autonomy in a way you regret because of the hubris of your improper theological justification?
ii. Extra details
By prior consent I mean someone may make a contract or agreement that coercion maybe used against them to prevent them from doing something or punish them for doing something as a deterrent in exchange for other people making similar agreements especially about things that are highly unwanted but disputed as to if the actions are violent and therefore ok to use coercion to prevent
iii. For deeper thought on this issue of prior consent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o
The Machinery Of Freedom: Illustrated summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YfgKOnYx5A
Exploring Liberty: The Machinery of Freedom
To get more nuance into the difficulty of understanding if actions are violent in regards to property in contrast to the perspective in the videos above
https://youtu.be/eknoQYrgq60
Private vs Personal Property
Examples of consent contracts for further thinking not necessarily endorsed by me as morally valid
https://www.lawinsider.com/clause/no-assignment-without-consent
C ) The Hubris of judging the moral teachings of a book of the Bible based on your conscience
i. when the author might know something you do not
ii. When you use it as an excuse to avoid educating your conscience through refusing to read other people's points of view your disagree with
5. Hubris nature of interpreting the Bible to avoid State persecution
A ) Are you interpreting the Bible to always line up with laws of the nation State territory you are in, even if it means being dishonest in your interpretation?
B ) Hubris not to study alternative interpretations of Romans 13
The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him. Proverbs 18:17 ESV
http://biblehub.com/proverbs/18-17.htm
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404052402/http://biblehub.com/proverbs/18-17.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism#State_authority
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404052506/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_anarchism
https://famguardian.org/subjects/Taxes/Articles/Christian/Romans13.htm
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404040707/https://famguardian.org/subjects/Taxes/Articles/Christian/Romans13.htm
C ) Hubris to assume that you are fortunate to be in the one nation State that gets morality right
How come you are so lucky to be in the country that happens to line up with Biblical morality? How come the moral rules in one State contradict the moral rules in another State if obeying the state laws is the same as obeying moral rules?
D ) The hubris of assuming state obedient Church leaders do not change their teachings to conform to the State
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_China#Official_organizations%E2%80%94the_Chinese_Protestant_Church_and_the_Chinese_Patriotic_Catholic_Church
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404041259/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_China
The reign of Constantine established a precedent for the position of the emperor as having great influence and ultimate regulatory authority within the religious discussions involving the early Christian councils of that time,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great#Religious_policy
In the eighth century, most likely during the pontificate of Stephen II (752–757), a document called the Donation of Constantinefirst appeared, in which the freshly converted Constantine hands the temporal rule over "the city of Rome and all the provinces, districts, and cities of Italy and the Western regions" to Sylvester and his successors.[307] In the High Middle Ages, this document was used and accepted as the basis for the Pope's temporal power, though it was denounced as a forgery by Emperor Otto III[308] and lamented as the root of papal worldliness by the poet Dante Alighieri.[309] The 15th century philologist Lorenzo Valla proved the document was indeed a forgery.[310]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_Great#Donation_of_Constantine
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404053515/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_the_GreatE ) Blind order following is morally wrong
i. Doing something because you are following orders is morally wrong in terms of intention even if the action would be morally right to do because it is a failure to exercise your conscience to evaluate if the action would be morally wrong to do before choosing to engage in the action.
ii. You may be following orders because you have limited information but you still need to guess if the order would be ethical to follow by the information you have and not merely because you believe it is intrinsically ethical to always follow orders. This guesswork may include evaluating the ethos of the order giver as the order giver may present information they have access to that you can not directly verify. For example if someone says "shoot that person before he kills you, I know he is a serial killer.," you may not have time to confirm that person is a serial killer yourself order following maybe necessary on the grounds of self defense but not because the person gave you an order.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethos#Rhetoric
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404054329/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethos
iii. You maybe following an order that would normally be unethical to do but will cause a greater problem if disobeyed because of unethical coercion or other situational reasons
iv.
In 1945 and 1946, during the Nuremberg trials the issue of superior orders again arose. Before the end of World War II, the Allies suspected such a defense might be employed and issued the London Charter of the International Military Tribunal (IMT), which explicitly stated that following an unlawful order is not a valid defense against charges of war crimes.
Thus, under Nuremberg Principle IV, "defense of superior orders" is not a defense for war crimes, although it might be a mitigating factor that could influence a sentencing authority to lessen the penalty. Nuremberg Principle IV states:
During the Nuremberg Trials, Wilhelm Keitel, Alfred Jodl and other defendants unsuccessfully used the defense. In most cases, the tribunal found that the defendants' offenses were so egregious that obedience to superior orders could not be considered a mitigating factor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders#"
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404033032/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders
6. Atheists can have Hubris in how they read the Bible not Christians only
i. Hubris of Moral arguments for god's existence or lack of existence
Do you believe God does not exist because if the Bible describes God accurately he would have violated your moral code? Would that mean a genocide ordering tyrant could not have existed because you believed he is evil? To think someone does not exist because they are described as evil is great hubris.
Christians do you try to argue the Bible is true because your interpretation of it lines up with moral teachings you like if so then you are falling for the same logical trap as the Atheists.
ii. "Scientism" proving or disproving the existence of God or gods is great hubris
Do you understand that just because someone labels themselves as a scientist or labels something as a scientific teaching does not guarantee it is true? Do you understand that the scientific method is not designed to have theories confirmed to be true with 100% certainty but hypothesis and theories are to be tested, retested and revised.
Scientism is a term generally used to describe the facile application of science in unwarranted situations not amenable to application of the scientific method.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404054522/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism
9 It is Hubris to avoid information sources other than the Bible
Factually accurate books provide at best a map of reality and are not reality themselves you can not fit all the digits of the number pie in a book but that does not mean a book with implied rounding is wrong. There are many fine detail corrections to the claims in the Bible but that does not make it factually inaccurate. We should use some of the moral principles or rules we find in the Bible as a general outline as a starting point in contemplating some life decisions but know more fine details than provided are needed in real life application and there also can be true moral principles that are not written in the Bible or at least not explicitly.
"CRITICS OF THE BIBLE COULD SAY THAT THE BIBLE IS IMPRECISE HERE, BUT THEY CANNOT LEGITIMATELY SAY THAT IT IS INACCURATE OR MISTAKEN."
https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/as-easy-as-pi/
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404075922/https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/as-easy-as-pi/
http://www.theemotionmachine.com/beliefs-and-your-map-of-reality/
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404075356/http://www.theemotionmachine.com/beliefs-and-your-map-of-reality/
http://www.intropsych.com/ch01_psychology_and_science/model_building_and_mapping_reality.html
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404075537/http://www.intropsych.com/ch01_psychology_and_science/model_building_and_mapping_reality.html
http://www.purplemath.com/modules/bibleval.htm
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404075819/http://www.purplemath.com/modules/bibleval.htm
https://thecosmoconscious.blogspot.com/2016/06/mathematical-errors-in-bible.html
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404080041/https://thecosmoconscious.blogspot.com/2016/06/mathematical-errors-in-bible.html
7 It is Hubris to assume for something to be true it must be mentioned in the Bible
8 It is Hubris to make sweeping generalizations out of narrow statements in reading texts
9 It is Hubris to avoid information sources other than the Bible
10 Hubris nature of assuming any text describes an exact map of reality with unlimited precision instead of a accurate description of reality.
Factually accurate books provide at best a map of reality and are not reality themselves you can not fit all the digits of the number pie in a book but that does not mean a book with implied rounding is wrong. There are many fine detail corrections to the claims in the Bible but that does not make it factually inaccurate. We should use some of the moral principles or rules we find in the Bible as a general outline as a starting point in contemplating some life decisions but know more fine details than provided are needed in real life application and there also can be true moral principles that are not written in the Bible or at least not explicitly.
"CRITICS OF THE BIBLE COULD SAY THAT THE BIBLE IS IMPRECISE HERE, BUT THEY CANNOT LEGITIMATELY SAY THAT IT IS INACCURATE OR MISTAKEN."
https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/as-easy-as-pi/
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404075922/https://answersingenesis.org/contradictions-in-the-bible/as-easy-as-pi/
http://www.theemotionmachine.com/beliefs-and-your-map-of-reality/
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404075356/http://www.theemotionmachine.com/beliefs-and-your-map-of-reality/
http://www.intropsych.com/ch01_psychology_and_science/model_building_and_mapping_reality.html
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404075537/http://www.intropsych.com/ch01_psychology_and_science/model_building_and_mapping_reality.html
http://www.purplemath.com/modules/bibleval.htm
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404075819/http://www.purplemath.com/modules/bibleval.htm
https://thecosmoconscious.blogspot.com/2016/06/mathematical-errors-in-bible.html
https://www.waybackmachine.org/web/20180404080041/https://thecosmoconscious.blogspot.com/2016/06/mathematical-errors-in-bible.html
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